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  • Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism and Max King

    Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism was founded by Max King in 1971. In Max’s framework and paradigm, he saw an “Old Covenant Age” and a “New Covenant Age” in the Bible that he equated with the “Old Heaven and Earth” and the “New Heaven and Earth”. Max did NOT take his “Old Age” and “New Age”… Read more

  • Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism and “The Resurrection”

    What if I told you that “The Resurrection” in the New Testament is defined as “Israel’s promised raising from death to life”? What if you had to throw out everything you ever learned about “The Resurrection” and it now gets reduced to “Israel was raised out from the metaphoric grave of Old Covenant Age Death… Read more

  • Don Preston and Sam Frost debate review

    A debate recently took place involving Don Preston and Sam Frost. Sam educated Jeremiah Nortier (his team mate) on how some of the heretical Max King framework plays out. And Jeremiah did his fair share of homework in preparation for the debate. Frankly, Don Preston and Mike Sullivan got brutalized in the debate. Even though… Read more

  • “Israel Only”, “Covenant Creation”, and “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism”

    This comment below is mine that I made in response to an “Israel Only” advocate. “Israel Only” springboarded off the heretical Max King framework of “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism” around 2005. A few years earlier in 2002, “Covenant Creation” springboarded off the heretical Max King framework. “Israel Only” says that “God’s people were saved in… Read more

  • Happy NEW AGE!

    Happy NEW AGE peoples! Remember! God’s people in Old Covenant Age spiritual separation Death were corporately resurrected and saved into the New Age of the Spirit in AD 70 when the Israelite temple was destroyed! See! The pesky Law was preventing reconciliation, forgiveness, atonement, resurrection, and salvation for God’s Old Covenant Age people! 40 years… Read more

  • This cult is disgusting to the core!

    The following is my response to a comment. This cult is disgusting to the core! You get these newbies like little demons who come to nip at your heels. I’ve been studying the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult for 25 years, and even though I have literally thousands of screenshots and countless innumerable hours of… Read more

  • The Mosaic covenant and law ended on the cross!

    “The law” according to Paul is not the “misuse” or the “deeds” of the law. That’s a grossly inadequate way of describing what was happening in the first century. “The law” according to Paul is the whole of the Mosaic covenant and law. And Paul came to know and understand that the law was fulfilled,… Read more

  • ”Love NOT the world” is now “DO Love the world”

    So what would you say to Jesus if you were standing next to him when he said to his fellow Jews, “You bunch of snakes!” and “Your father is the Devil!” and “You are clean on the outside but inside you’re full of dead men’s bones and filth and abomination!”??? How about when Paul said… Read more

  • An interview with a man who was at the end time coming of Jesus in AD 70!

    “Sir, sir, excuse me! I’d like to briefly interview you! We heard that the end time coming, arrival, appearing, and presence of Christ took place yesterday when the Israelite temple was destroyed in Jerusalem. Were you there to experience it personally?” “Yes! Yes! I was there!” “Sir, can you tell everyone about the eschatological coming,… Read more

  • Just put “covenantal” in front of everything!

    The following is part of a longer discussion. Notice in the attached screenshot where this guy says “What became uncorruptible was their covenantal status.” He also mentions “covenantal judgment”. Notice the trickery! Put “covenantal” in front of something and you’ve magically transfomed anything you want into Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult language. The same is… Read more

  • What is the Gospel in Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism?

    What is the process for getting saved in Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism? In other words… How do these guys define the Gospel in the Bible? Easy peasy fo sheezy! (…or so they might say!) Here’s how they define the “AD 70 Gospel” that they teach (with a big dose of sarcasm). So, ya know, there… Read more

  • Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism’s new leader!

    Somebody in a group brought up the new Max Kingism hotshot’s (Zach Davis) subscriber numbers. And my very low subscriber numbers were mentioned (which I’m quite happy with btw). The following is my response to this comment… I’m happy my YouTube channel is as pathetic as it is after 8 or so years. I refuse… Read more

  • Zach Davis is the messiah of Max Kingism!

    The new kid in Max Kingism, Zach Davis, is coming out and saying that “There’s more to the Old Heaven and Earth than just the covenant people”. So I can see that he’s now coming up with his own unique version of Max Kingism. He still has the heretical Max King framework, but he’s trying… Read more

  • Corporate Body Resurrection?!

    Some deceived people can’t even see the hoops they’ve got to jump through to buy into such crazy redefinitions of death and resurrrction that are in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult! Don Preston, the top teacher in this cult for the past many years, somehow says Adam was alienated, Israel was alienated, alienation must… Read more

  • Israel’s redemption story?

    The huge glaring problem with the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult – which includes its offshoots Covenant Creation and Israel Only – is that they make “Israel’s story” be the central story in the Bible. Since they make the Bible be “Israel’s covenant redemption story”, they need to take “Israel” and “covenant” all the way… Read more

  • Did Jesus die a spiritual death?

    Hey Full Preterist! I hope you realize that the top teacher in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult for the past 35 years, Don Preston, considers “Christ’s sacrifice” to be a “spiritual death” and “spiritual sacrifice” that took place on the cross before the physical death ever took place! Do you realize this? Are you… Read more

  • How to define Jesus coming back the second time?

    When I look at Hebrews 9:28, I very clearly see that this “appearing the second time” is THE second coming of the man who is God who is Jesus, where this second coming of Jesus is not about addressing sin (without sin, apart from sin, not having anything to do with sin), like his first… Read more

  • Gary DeMar is promoting a blatant heretic!

    Gary DeMar from American Vision is openly supporting and promoting a blatant heretic, Zach Davis. Zach is a member of the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult. Zach joined this cult a few years ago, and he has become “YouTube famous”, even far surpassing in “followers” the top teacher in this cult, Don Preston, who’s been… Read more

  • So! Christ already came back you say?!

    More and more people are believing that the end times, or the end of the age, was in the first century. So, here are some questions… If the promised eschatological (end times) “parousia”, or presence, of Jesus took place in the first century, in what form and nature did Jesus arrive and come with? In… Read more

  • Full Preterism disguising as Partial Preterism

    Kim Burgess, co-author of a 2023 book with Gary DeMar, is definitely a Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult member, just like Gary DeMar. Like Gary DeMar, Kim Burgess insists that he’s not a Full Preterist, or “Hyper-Preterist”, but both of them have one foot in Futurism, and one foot in Full Preterism, which actually makes… Read more

  • Did Christ come in Spirit in the first century?

    This chart further exposes the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult. They say you just have to believe this “new age” came in AD 70 at the coming of the Christ, and that you’re now in it. It’s “name it and claim it” on steroids! They say the Christ came back in AD 70 to dwell… Read more

  • The Body of the Resurrection

    It’s important to understand that the founder of “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism” in 1971, Max King, took the “corporate body view” of the body of the Resurrection. He was influenced by John A.T. Robinson, a Liberal Anglican theologian who wrote a book in 1952 called “The Body”. Max obviously knew biological bodies didn’t come out… Read more

  • The Old Heaven and Earth

    The Old Heaven and Earth in the Bible is not the Old Covenant heavens and earth. When God shows us the beginning of the Old Heaven and Earth as the “Old Creation” in the very first verse of the Bible in Genesis 1:1, it is not about “the creation of covenant” or “the creation of… Read more

  • The AD 70 Gospel of Max King, Don Preston, William Bell, and Ed Stevens

    Hallelujah! I accepted the Gospel of AD 70 from Don Preston, and I immediately entered into the risen and saved in AD 70 corporate Church, where the mystical Presence of the Christ now resides, and I became immortal, incorruptible, glorified, perfect, and sinless! I accepted all this by faith in Don Preston and his AD… Read more

  • Max King is the founder of the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult

    The following (below) is from Max King’s 👉1971👈 book “The Spirit of Prophecy”, where Max introduced his core heretical doctrine in his “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism” false teaching (see attached image from page 103). People in this cult today say, “I never read Max King”, but here’s the thing… Max directly taught Ed Stevens, William… Read more

  • Covenant Eschatology’s “corporate body view” Resurrection!

    Is this what you think of when you consider “the body of the Resurrection”? 1 Corinthians 15:35, “But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?” A “corporate body”, as a “group of people in Adam” that make up this alleged “corporate body”? Is there any… Read more

  • Scripture demands a literal Rapture!

    The saints who are alive and remain at the second coming of Jesus most definitely get literally caught up (harpazo, raptured, seized, snatched away) into the literal air to meet (apantesis, face to face meeting, encounter) Jesus and the saints out from Sheol in the air. 1 Thessalonians 4:17, “Then we which are alive and… Read more

  • Don Preston filed a police complaint against me?!?!

    Don Preston’s really good buddy, Allyn Morton, says to Gary DeMar about me, “He has done some low-down stuff against Don K. Preston too. I think Don has filled out a police complaint form against him.” (See red rectangle area in attached image) Hmmm! So what did I do to Don Preston that justified him… Read more

  • What does “in the flesh” mean?

    I get messages constantly, and I address various questions. The left part of the attached image is my response to somebody just last night. The right part is Don Preston’s comment to me, where he tries to “kill the messenger” (me), and he then gives his insane teaching on what he says “in the flesh”… Read more

  • “New Postmillennialism” is Max King’s “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism”

    The guys pushing “New Postmillenialism” (DeMar, Wilson, Durbin, Gentry, etc.) are already in Max King’s “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult”, but they have not come out of the closet yet. Gary DeMar has recently come right out as a member of the Max King Cult. What they say about how they define the “Old Heaven… Read more

  • The New Postmillennialism for today’s 501c3 Churchianity

    The “Great Commission” does not mean “Christianize the Earth”. Nowhere in the teachings in the New Testament do we hear about a mix of Christianity and any strong nationalism. Jesus never taught about his Ekklesia (called out ones) intermingling with civil ekklesias that has citizens “called out” of the general populace to form a civil… Read more

  • Today’s “New Postmillennialism” is Full Preterism

    Preterism relates to eschatology (the study of the end times). Preterism is simply “past fulfillment”. So when it comes to Christian eschatology, HOW MUCH was “past fulfillment”? Jesus’ first coming (advent) in his incarnation (in the flesh) in the womb of Mary is obviously something different than his promised second coming (advent) that Scripture teaches.… Read more

  • Was there a “covenant age change” in the first century?

    Once you say that an alleged “old covenant age” (or “world, order, system, kingdom, creation”) ended in the first century, and an alleged “new covenant age” (or “world, order, system, kingdom, creation”) began at that time, you joined the Max King Cult called “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism”! You can deny it by saying “I don’t… Read more

  • Gary DeMar’s threatened lawsuit against me • Part 3

    From a discussion this morning. Big shot Gary DeMar is threatening a lawsuit against me. I received a comment from a friend this morning “I thought Christians weren’t supposed to sue each other…” Here’s my response… That’s right. Gary DeMar’s true colors are shining through, and I’m going to make sure people see them –… Read more

  • Gary DeMar’s threatened lawsuit against me • Part 2

    Ya gotta love this one (or maybe not)! Gary DeMar puts the feelers out there for a lawsuit against me, and his faithful admirers took the opportunity for a bash fest. Over 200 comments! This screenshot is very mild compared to some other comments on Gary’s post! The consensus among Gary’s admirers, disciples, and supporters… Read more

  • An open letter to Gary DeMar

    Here’s my open letter to Gary DeMar after he put out feelers concerning a lawsuit against me on his page. An open letter to Gary DeMar… 1. Gary DeMar blocked me about 6 years ago immediately after I made one gentle comment on his wall. Gary is a coward for now making this post on… Read more

  • Gary DeMar joined the Max King Cult

    Gary DeMar joined the Max King Cult called Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism. He’ll probably deny it, but he did join it. Max King formally came up with this in 1971, even as he worked on his framework throughout the 1960’s. The main false doctrine in this cult is the claim that an alleged “Old Covenant… Read more

  • Gary DeMar is Teaching Heresy

    These two images below are from Gary DeMar’s book. Remember to read between the proverbial lines. He’s being clever, and if you know what he’s really saying, it’s bad stuff! Gary has taken on “Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism” out from Max King in 1971. He’s been showing up as a speaker at their conferences. Don… Read more