The following is part of a longer discussion. Notice in the attached screenshot where this guy says “What became uncorruptible was their covenantal status.” He also mentions “covenantal judgment”. Notice the trickery! Put “covenantal” in front of something and you’ve magically transfomed anything you want into Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult language. The same is true with Tim Martin’s and Jeff Vaughn’s “Covenant Creation”, where the Genesis Creation story in Genesis chapter 1 is now just a story about how covenant was created “in the beginning”. Now the first verse of the Bible means to these guys, “In the beginning God created the Old Covenantal Age and World Heavens and Earth for the Old Covenantal people found in Adam”. Magic! Just put “covenant” or “covenantal” in front of anything, and you can immediately speak the cult language in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult! Imagine living in the first century, and the promised and highly anticipated colossal stupendous amazing extravaggant over-the-top eschatological return, appearing, arrival, and presence of Christ takes place, and all you’ve got to say to one another after it happens is, “Our covenantal status has changed and our covenantal status is now uncorruptible” as you go back to your jobs and live life like normal. That’s like being at the promised eschatological coming and appearing and presence of Christ and then buying a tshirt that says, “I was at the end time coming of Christ and all I got is this lousy tshirt!” The following is my comment as part of this longer discussion…

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You’re dodging. You brought up the presence of Jesus, and I’ve asked you twice now about how somebody today gets the presence of Jesus. So you turn it around on me – after trying to deflect away from everything I’ve asked about the form and nature of Christ at his coming – and how the saints experienced the coming of Christ. You’re playing games. No honesty. No integrity. This is what I expect with those who can’t answer simple questions, but then dance, dodge, and deflect. I was doing this same crap with Don Preston, William Bell, and others before they had to block me in order to save face.

I’m baptized with the Holy Spirit by God 40 years ago now. This is in the same way that Paul and others in the first century were saved while on Earth before AD 70. And this baptism is why Paul could say such things as “Christ in you, the hope of glory” before AD 70. The same is true today – like it was for Luke, Stephen, Cornelius, James, Paul, and others prior to AD 70. Jesus did not come back the second time in AD 45 or AD 55, yet they understood that Jesus dwelt in them in, through, and by the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, coming to personally dwell in them. This same baptism of the Holy Spirit by God takes place today for genuine Christians. What the saints received in AD 70 – as it concerns the fullness of their personal salvation by going to the highest Heaven – is not yet available for genuine Christians on Earth today.

This is why Max Kingism members today are deceived – while thinking they are “in the Body of Christ that was corporately raised and corporately saved in AD 70”. It’s a “name it and claim it” perfection, glory, immortality, and incorruption. It’s a misplaced hope. It’s putting your faith in the wrong object. And people are going to be quite surprised when they physically die and they find out they’ve believed a lie about “how Christ came in AD 70 to bring perfection, glory, immortality, and incorruption to the corporate Church that was a corporate Old Covenant people of Adam/Israel that allegedly needed corporate raising and corporate salvation in AD 70” and “today, you need to believe in this corporate salvation that came in AD 70 and then become part of this corporate New Covenant people of Christ who were corporately raised and corporately saved in AD 70”.

This is not the Gospel in the Bible. This is Max Kingism. The whole insane idea is “get inside the corporately raised and corporately saved in AD 70 corporate body of Christ, and then immediately be in the Presence of the Christ who came down in AD 70 to deliver salvation and dwell in the corporately saved in AD 70 Church”. And how does one get inside this “corporately raised and corporately saved in AD 70 Body of Christ” you may ask? You’ve got to believe the false gospel that Max King, Don Preston, William Bell, Ed Stevens, and others in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism cult have been teaching since Max King came up with this false christ and false gospel in 1971. The whole cult is built upon the lie that there was an “Old Covenant Age and World” that ended in AD 70, and an alleged “New Covenant Age and World” that was consummated in AD 70.

Because I’m genuinely baptized with the Holy Spirit by God, I’m able to see through all these lies and false doctrines. This happened many years ago for me. I’ve been studying the Max King Cult for 25 years now. I was there in the Virgil Vaduva Planet Preterist “The cat’s out of the bag” Paltalk days before Facebook began in 2004. I’m not a newbie in this scene. And I get that people chomp down on the cult bait and invest in this cult because they’re not genuinely baptized with the Holy Spirit by God. This is why there’s so much confusion and carnage in this cult out from Max King.